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#16 Bantock

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Posted 25 September 2021 - 21:49

Just stick 'em up and be done with it.
I've now been teaching 45 years and for 30 years I have increased my fees every two years. I thought of doing it every year but I think this works best. I've never not done it and never had a complaint. I also don't agonize much about the size of increase - I take inflation into account but usually increase by (a bit) more.
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Posted 26 September 2021 - 12:32

All very helpful replies thus far, to which I would

add that 'sensing the mood' for hiking rates can be

done by consulting the ISM instrumental teachers' survey

and deciding whether your current rates are broadly in line

or below the regional/national averages.

 

My 2015 rates were quite high/above average then, and I have not changed them since: only in the last year have average rates caught up with mine, therefore I may think about increasing them next year, perhaps, although it may

be nuanced so that only new customers will pay the full new rates whereas existing customers will get a 'loyalty' discount on the increase.


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#18 barry-clari the second

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 14:10

All very helpful replies thus far, to which I would
add that 'sensing the mood' for hiking rates can be
done by consulting the ISM instrumental teachers' survey
and deciding whether your current rates are broadly in line
or below the regional/national averages.

My 2015 rates were quite high/above average then, and I have not changed them since: only in the last year have average rates caught up with mine, therefore I may think about increasing them next year, perhaps, although it may
be nuanced so that only new customers will pay the full new rates whereas existing customers will get a 'loyalty' discount on the increase.


Seven years (as it will be then) is a long time without a fee increase. I would very strongly recommend you put your fees up a little next year. Not putting your fees up for that long is not great for your own self care.

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 15:35

Hi Barry-Clan,

I have a lot of income sources
and private tuition is a very small
part of that, therefore when I put
my hourly rate at 35 Pounds in 2015
I was very much high-end, and I still
know a lot of people who are charging 30 Pounds
per hour.

Therefore, I am not undercutting my own welfare
or other people.
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Posted 26 September 2021 - 15:39

https://www.ism.org/...ey-results-2021
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Posted 26 September 2021 - 18:38

Hi Barry-Clan,

I have a lot of income sources
and private tuition is a very small
part of that, therefore when I put
my hourly rate at 35 Pounds in 2015
I was very much high-end, and I still
know a lot of people who are charging 30 Pounds
per hour.

Therefore, I am not undercutting my own welfare
or other people.


Good - I’m glad you are not, as we would say round these parts, ‘doing yourself’.

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#22 Misterioso

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 20:53

Thanks for that link, ViolinsAreForLife. Am I missing something, or are there no results given for Scotland? It would be useful to have some comparisons for this neck of the woods.

 

I really like your idea of raising fees for new students, and think I will probably do that, bringing the others into line next year. Thanks for posting this.


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#23 barry-clari the second

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Posted 27 September 2021 - 12:26

Thanks for that link, ViolinsAreForLife. Am I missing something, or are there no results given for Scotland? It would be useful to have some comparisons for this neck of the woods.
 
I really like your idea of raising fees for new students, and think I will probably do that, bringing the others into line next year. Thanks for posting this.

I think the only thing I would say about that is to be very careful you don’t have a two tier system for any length of time : it might breed resentment, otherwise, though it isn’t something I would do, it’s still a decent idea.

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Posted 30 September 2021 - 09:35

Thanks for that link, ViolinsAreForLife. Am I missing something, or are there no results given for Scotland? It would be useful to have some comparisons for this neck of the woods.

There are *some*, but it's just "Scotland" as a whole, which is not a great help when you're in a mid-size town not in the central belt! I imagine Glasgow and Edinburgh in particular are skewing the numbers upward a bit. 


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Posted 30 September 2021 - 10:17

Yes @Alder , that is it.

The English data is a good proxy and it has
been made more nuanced with the addition of
instrumental tuition fees received/charged by
tutors in schools, also showing differences
between state and private ("public") schools, and between teachers who operate in those schools under PAYE contract or as self-employed tutors.

This additional information really shows the socio-economic divide in society and I hope that the newly-secured funding for free instrumental tuition in Scotland will show us whether we can reduce the gap in music education.
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