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#1 Nine and a Half Fingers

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Posted 22 March 2020 - 21:29

It is sort of, well, perfect, really, don't you think? Nourishment for the soul - most especially in these somewhat troubled times....

 

Stay safe everyone


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Posted 22 March 2020 - 22:29

Certainly an ambitious project to undertake during a period of isolation. :piano:


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Posted 23 March 2020 - 07:21

I'm happy to settle for listening to it! Good idea, 9.5fingers! I'm trying playing Op.79 at the minute, Op.111 will have to wait for another lifetime ...


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Posted 23 March 2020 - 10:12

I've had a pretty good go at Op110 over the last few months, so maybe I will look at Op111, his last Sonata. I also want to explore Op109.  I doubt I will ever tackle Op106 (Hammerklavier) the most difficult of all.  The last 5 Sonatas I wonderful, and rather different in character  from what gone before. They are also the 5 most difficult. 


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Posted 23 March 2020 - 11:51

I won't be trying to play any of it - those days are over :( ...

 

I have this endless debate with myself over which of the sonatas is my personal favourite, and which do I think is the "greatest" (for want of a more accurate description). Favourite has to be either Op 111 or Op 53. Greatest - possibly Op 106 mainly because of the almost transcendental fugue - but 111 might get gold. Off the beaten track I really love Op 54 - the closing bars of the first movement are sublime and the Allegretto - Più allegro (please not sooooooooooooooooo fast) is pure genius (of course!).


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Posted 23 March 2020 - 12:29

They are all my favourites  :wub: . I'm not planning to tackle the Hammerklavier, but I might finally have time to make a start on 110 and 111. Parts of them are a definite possibility. 


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Posted 23 March 2020 - 15:58

Op.53 is my favourite. I haven't tried any of the last five. 


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Posted 23 March 2020 - 16:10

I won't be trying to play any of it - those days are over :( ...

 

I have this endless debate with myself over which of the sonatas is my personal favourite, and which do I think is the "greatest" (for want of a more accurate description). Favourite has to be either Op 111 or Op 53. Greatest - possibly Op 106 mainly because of the almost transcendental fugue - but 111 might get gold. Off the beaten track I really love Op 54 - the closing bars of the first movement are sublime and the Allegretto - Più allegro (please not sooooooooooooooooo fast) is pure genius (of course!).

Mine is Op53 Waldstein, I can play it, but a bit more work on last movement might not go amiss. Have 'performed' 1st movement .  Op 54 I don't play much.


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Posted 23 March 2020 - 16:12

 

I won't be trying to play any of it - those days are over :( ...

 

I have this endless debate with myself over which of the sonatas is my personal favourite, and which do I think is the "greatest" (for want of a more accurate description). Favourite has to be either Op 111 or Op 53. Greatest - possibly Op 106 mainly because of the almost transcendental fugue - but 111 might get gold. Off the beaten track I really love Op 54 - the closing bars of the first movement are sublime and the Allegretto - Più allegro (please not sooooooooooooooooo fast) is pure genius (of course!).

Mine is Op53 Waldstein, I can play it, but a bit more work on last movement might not go amiss. Have 'performed' 1st movement .  Op 54 I don't play much.

I also like the two movement Op90 which precedes the last five.

 


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Posted 24 March 2020 - 08:01

Moonlight Sonata. 100%. Don't care if I'm being cliched, it's the best thing ever written!


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Posted 01 April 2020 - 10:04

Moonlight Sonata. 100%. Don't care if I'm being cliched, it's the best thing ever written!

 

I'd be inclined to agree it's one of his best piano sonatas.

 

I know the first movement, is overplayed, but that final movement is really something! 


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Posted 01 April 2020 - 10:54

Have had a go at Op111.  Definitely harder than Op110.  The opening of Op110 is very manageable, as is the Recitative and Arioso Dolente  (quite the most beautiful and sad of all his Sonata movements - dont miss any flats !). I had a good practise of the fugues last night, doable but I will need to stick at it.


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Posted 01 April 2020 - 13:52

Have had a go at Op111.  Definitely harder than Op110.  The opening of Op110 is very manageable, as is the Recitative and Arioso Dolente  (quite the most beautiful and sad of all his Sonata movements - dont miss any flats !). I had a good practise of the fugues last night, doable but I will need to stick at it.

I too have played the Arioso Dolente - it is indeed very, very beautiful. I also played the Allegro Molto second movement quite a lot, without ever managing to get that central section in D-flat comfortable. It is a great sonata.


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