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#1 MaggieH

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Posted 25 August 2021 - 11:01

HI,  I have a music notation question,  mostly it is dotted notes and rhythm.   

How do I count,  play these  bars.  

 

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#2 Misterioso

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Posted 25 August 2021 - 12:40

What is the time signature? If you can give us the name of the piece, someone may have a copy so that they can give more specific help. Otherwise, could you post a copy of it?


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Posted 25 August 2021 - 12:57

Thank you for your reply.  

I have got an illustration of the piece I need help with. 

It's  from Andante,  Joseph Haydn  E flat, second movement.  ABRSM, Grade 3 piece.

 

Bars 5 and 6, also help with the speed of bar 7.  thanks .  I don't have a tutor at present. 

 

 OH  and also bar 4, sorry, there are two middle C's  it  together it seems.  Treble and  Cleff.  I didn't illustrate this one. But I can if you want me to.

 

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Bar 4.

 

 

Two middle C's. how are they to be played?

 

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Posted 25 August 2021 - 15:19

Bar 4 – the two middle Cs: you just need to play the key with one thumb (not both thumbs at once). it's up to you to decide which is most comfortable, but the editor has suggested the RH as that would suit the phrasing better. If you play it with the LH then you may get a loud thump at the end of the phrase.  It's notated twice because the music has two separate lines interweaving and the C belongs to both melodies.

 

Bars 5/6 – the music is in groups of three quavers, so count an even '1 and 2 and 3 and', with the numbers coinciding with the left hand quaver chords (so, two semiquavers for each quaver). The semiquaver in the RH dotted rhythm (b.5) coincides with the 'and' after the 2. It may help to play three even quaver chords in the left hand, rather than 'chord – rest – chord', for a bit. That will help you place the dotted note and semiquaver. Counting out loud is also good until the rhythm is secure.

 

Bar 6 – the three semiquavers coincide with the 'and 3 and'.

 

Does that help? I can't see the music for bar 7.


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Posted 25 August 2021 - 22:02

I'm afraid I don't use counting so this is probably not much help!

 

But I would feel a quaver pulse and say 

 

tim-ka ti   ti-ti-ti   / tim-ka tika ti (rest) ti   /

 

Sniffs are good for quaver rests  :D .


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#6 MaggieH

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Posted 26 August 2021 - 05:18

Yes thanks both that all helps a lot.

 

My former music teacher also said to sniff for rests.   :lol: It does work. 

 

But I am still not on top of the perfect timing.  


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Posted 26 August 2021 - 09:32

Can you listen to a youtube video of it? There is sure to be one if it's a grade piece.


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Posted 26 August 2021 - 21:38

I'm afraid I don't use counting so this is probably not much help!

 

But I would feel a quaver pulse and say 

 

tim-ka ti   ti-ti-ti   / tim-ka tika ti (rest) ti   /

 

Sniffs are good for quaver rests  :D .

 

Make sure you tap the quaver pulse whilst speaking the rhythm names.

 

Try walking the pulse while saying the rhythm - then walk the pulse, clap the rhythm whilst speaking it - then without speaking it aloud...try lots of variations until it's embedded in your body.

 

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