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#1 Yet another muso

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 14:03

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 14:38

I personally cannot see any point in doing both in the same session with the same repertoire. I could understand if consecutive sessions. I am not a fan of ARSM anyway. Struck me when introduced it was just an extra money making ploy by the Board. Its not that big a jump from Grade 8 to DipA


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Posted 28 July 2020 - 15:20

I don’t see the point of doing both either. If she is of DipABRSM standard, she just go straight to DipABRSM. There are much cheaper alternatives to ARSM for building her confidence. She can do a live recital on YouTube or on Facebook, for example.
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Posted 28 July 2020 - 22:30

Fair comments, in line with my initial thinking on this, but she just dropped me a quick email asking me the direct question of whether it is possible within the rules. So regardless of my opinion on this, I would like to be able to answer her question. Does anyone know if it's actually against the rules to do this? 

 

When I actually speak to my student in person about this, I'll of course ask her to explain her reasons for wanting to do it and properly discuss it.


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#5 Wai Kit Leung

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 02:45

I don’t believe there is any rule against this.

Fair comments, in line with my initial thinking on this, but she just dropped me a quick email asking me the direct question of whether it is possible within the rules. So regardless of my opinion on this, I would like to be able to answer her question. Does anyone know if it's actually against the rules to do this?

When I actually speak to my student in person about this, I'll of course ask her to explain her reasons for wanting to do it and properly discuss it.


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Posted 29 July 2020 - 06:44

I don't know if its against any rules, but there is a good chance both exams would be on the same day, and possibly one straight after the other, as they have to have an instrument specialist there. It depends on how many people enter the exam on the same instrument that session where you live.


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Posted 29 July 2020 - 09:21

Thanks for these replies. 

 

They definitely won't be on the same day, as ARSM diplomas happen as part of the normal grade exams, and DipABRSM is at a specialist diploma centre, and the diploma dates are later than the grade dates. So probably a couple of weeks in between the two.


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Posted 31 July 2020 - 02:47

ARSM can be useful if taken in earlier session as an intermediary goal to prepare for actual DipABRSM session. A student of mine did just that couple of years ago. Ideally by that earlier ARSM session the student should be able to get Distinction to pass the actual DipABRSM recital, otherwise there would be some serious catching up to do. 


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Posted 31 July 2020 - 07:45

I'm having trouble finding the fee for dip ABRSM - can anyone enlighten me please?
I managed to find that the ARSM fee was £167 (which is a bit expensive if you are treating it as a sort of 'mock exam' for another) but couldn't clarify the dipAB.
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Posted 03 August 2020 - 22:07

DipABRSM is currently 265.
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Posted 03 August 2020 - 22:37

DipABRSM is currently 265.


Many thanks, JamesVB.

Quite an undertaking in itself.
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Posted 05 August 2020 - 17:22

Its not that big a jump from Grade 8 to DipA

A bold statement which I, having entered diploma candidates (successfully) with all three boards would dispute, and which I think the Board would dispute.
The grade marking, too, is likely to get even stiffer as (like diplomas) they will all be recorded in future.
Strangely, it has worked the other way with the theory exams (soon to be conducted exclusively on line up to Grade 5), the over-simplification of which does the Board no credit at all.
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