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#1 wangaribuku

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 18:03

I recently bought the 8th grade piano exam book for my daughter and was surprised to find a piece I played for my 7th grade exam in 1983! The Beethoven B2 piece.1st Movement from the Sonata in G. It looks like the pieces have become simpler over the years. In those days you did a whole Sonata for 8th grade. The scales and aurals however were easier then. An interesting development
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Posted 21 November 2019 - 19:32

<eats popcorn>waits for fsharpminor</eats popcorn> :)


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Posted 21 November 2019 - 19:39

Are you referring to the Presto alla tedesca from Op. 79?

 

I was a little surprised to see it on the Grade 8 syllabus, honestly.  I would consider it more of a Grade 7 piece, or even Grade 6.  I think it could be legitimately (and productively) attempted at any of those grades.

 

However, I would certainly have much higher expectations from someone playing it at Grade 8 vs. Grade 7.  I would expect a faster tempo, more detail, more nuance, etc.


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Posted 21 November 2019 - 20:10

I have a very old Bosworth edition , hardbacked containing all of the Beethoven Sonatas. It is edited by Franz Liszt, and they are supposed to be arranged in order of difficulty (as whole Sonatas). Op79 is the third one, after the two obviously easier Op49 Sonatas. But I dont think you can rate the Presto alla Tedesca movement lower than Grade 8, played at proper speed and correct articulation.  For your interest the next few are Op 14 No2, Op10 No1, Op14 No1, and Op10 No 2.   But of course its all subjective.  I find the Waldstein easier than its position in the book.  The last five are the actual last five he wrote, but in this order,  Op101, Op110, Op109, Op112, and Op106 (Hammerklavier)


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Posted 21 November 2019 - 21:06

Scales were way harder when I did grade 8. You had to do everything. Aurals were different but I wouldn't like to say if they were harder or easier. Pieces sometimes pop up at a different grade from the one they've been set for before, in both directions.
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Posted 21 November 2019 - 22:07

Yeah, I did a whole sonata for grade 8. Badly. I passed with 18/30. Not surprised if the examiners just got sick of hearing so many half baked renditions like mine.
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Posted 22 November 2019 - 10:31

I have a old piano pieces book somewhere. It is from 2009-2010 and sometimes the piece is popular, they decide to include it again in more up to date copies of the syllabus. 


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Posted 22 November 2019 - 11:49

It was about 1993 or 1994 that ABRSM reduced the Grade 8 Sonatas requirement to just one movement. Daughter played a Clementi Sonata in B flat for Grade 8, and I think the next syllabus had just the one movement requirement.  Oddly when I did ALCM Dip in 1963 (! ) and had learned a whole Beethoven Sonata from memory,  the examiner stopped me after the exposition and development section of the first movement and asked me for the next piece . I got a decent mark so didn't complain. There were also scales and arps for that Dip in those days, more or less the whole lot in every key, similar motion, contrary motion and starting a 3rd 6th and 10th apart. Also some double third scales.


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Posted 24 November 2019 - 05:26

Yes that's the piece I meant. Played it in 1983 at the age of 18. I did my 8th grade in 2015 and boy was it a struggle to get my fingers back into shape! I bought the book in 2011.…and did not even register for the exam. Tried in 2012 and 2013 and got 83 and 91...took a break in 2014 and finally passed it in 2015 on my 50th birthday. As our Kenya Oscar winning actress Lupita Nyongo said..dreams are valid!
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Posted 24 November 2019 - 17:12

I honestly wish they would reintroduce the whole sonata concept at Grade 8.  Maybe offer it as an option, you know, either play one piece from each of the A, B, and C lists, or choose to play a whole sonata.  I would have jumped at the sonata.  I played a Brahms Intermezzo for Grade 8 that I didn't really like - I couldn't get excited about it, so I felt that the time I spent on it was wasted.  (I know it was not wasted; it was to get some experience with that sort of music even if I don't like it.  Eat your carrots, and that sort of thing.)

 

fsharpminor, I would tend to generally agree with that ordering of Beethoven's "easiest" sonatas.  I'm working on Op. 14 No. 1 right now for ARSM, and will do Op. 14 No. 2 for DipABRSM.  14.2 seems somewhat easier, and much more lighthearted, than 14.1.


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Posted 25 November 2019 - 23:07

Was that in 2014/2015? I liked the beginning and recap of that Brahms intermezzo..very melodious.The middle section was however quite boring. I agree..the Sonatas were more challenging...
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Posted 25 November 2019 - 23:08

I honestly wish they would reintroduce the whole sonata concept at Grade 8. Maybe offer it as an option, you know, either play one piece from each of the A, B, and C lists, or choose to play a whole sonata. I would have jumped at the sonata. I played a Brahms Intermezzo for Grade 8 that I didn't really like - I couldn't get excited about it, so I felt that the time I spent on it was wasted. (I know it was not wasted; it was to get some experience with that sort of music even if I don't like it. Eat your carrots, and that sort of thing.)

fsharpminor, I would tend to generally agree with that ordering of Beethoven's "easiest" sonatas. I'm working on Op. 14 No. 1 right now for ARSM, and will do Op. 14 No. 2 for DipABRSM. 14.2 seems somewhat easier, and much more lighthearted, than 14.1.


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Posted 25 November 2019 - 23:10

All the best in your ARSM and DipABRSM!
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Posted 25 November 2019 - 23:15

Fsharp minor...that is great! Here I am bragging about doing my 7th grade in 1983 and I was not even born in 1963 when you did your ACLM!! But I had a similar experience for my 7th grade. The examiner cut me short in all 3 pieces but I passed anyway.
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