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[mrbouffant]

Out. Just for fun.

[dorfmouse]

Who are you referring to?
(Edit, that was to mel2)

[Latin pianist]

I assumed Mel was referring to the adjectives used to describe those who voted to leave.

[lubylu]

I used the adjective "simplistic" to describe the view held by my parents, not my parents themselves. There is a difference.

This morning I feel extremely concerned for the future of our country, particularly the NHS which is heavily dependent on staff from other EU countries. When I go to work this morning, I will make sure that my Spanish, Italian, Portugese, Polish and Romanian colleagues know that they remain welcome and we value them and the work they do for our NHS.

[Aquarelle]

And when I go to work  later today  alongside my French colleagues it will be with very red eyes as I have done nothing but weep since I turned on the television ar 5am and learnt how unutterably foolish a very  small majority of British people have been. We are going to pay very dearly indeed. I am angry - I am rarely angry but this morning I am very angry indeed. The angry part of me says I hope Britain gets everything it deserves for its inward looking attitude. When the sadness prevails I am unuterrably depressed to think of those consequences.

 

Those of us who live outside the UK are probably more informed and more aware of what those consequences will be.

[PianoMike]

Aquarelle - the winners of elections aren't small minorities. That's a contradiction in terms.

[Maizie]

Aquarelle said a small majority (as in, the 4% by which they won) -  which is the bit that is concerning to me.  When you think about certain politicians, they go 'Oh look, I won, I can do what I like now' and they don't make concessions to those who voted the other way.  Given that in this case thats 48% of voters, that's an awful lot of people to ignore.

 

600 votes was the different in my area: 50.4% to 49.6%.  You begin to understand why unions, boards, etc often have a 2/3rds majority required to change statutes, etc.

[PianoMike]

Sorry Aquarelle, I didn't read that properly.

[Latin pianist]

My husband and son voted out. As farmers they are fed up of the rulings from Europe. And my husband hates that we are under the legislation of European courts.

[dorfmouse]

Well, I used the term daft to refer to Cameron's actions in setting in motion a vote and not enabling a very large number of people who would be likely to support him on this issue to participate.
Nothing to do with being judgemental about one side or the other. People should be careful about judging others as censorious.I thought the tone of replies to the topic was respectful to both views

[JudithJ]

Out - because I've wanted out for the last 30 years.

 

We don't have any power within the EU.  We've tried and found it impossible reform it from within, so we need to get out.

 

I hope that we will be able to find compassionate ways to treat those from the EU who live currently here, and that we will continue to be be compassionate to refugees - or preferably even more compassionate.

[mel2]

Yes, I was referring to the terms used in several of the posts in the thread to describe anything other than a vote to remain in the EU.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and the outcome could have gone either way.
Interesting times....

[linda.ff]

Out. Just for fun.

Happy now? Now that Mr Farage has already been on television to say that the main thrust of his campaign was a lie? Oh no, Sorry, a mistake. That's different of course.

[hummingbird]

The angry part of me says I hope Britain gets everything it deserves for its inward looking attitude.

I hope we get what we deserve too, and that is something better than we've had for a long, long time.  What makes me angry is partly the waste of our money that Brussels so carelessly throws away, and partly having stereotypes attached to me which bear no relation to what I actually believe.  Inward-looking?  It's yet another of those insults which says more about the people making them than it does about us.  We're looking outwards, to the world, not just to Europe whose leaders have shackled us for far too long. 

 

The Polish ambassador said this morning that "Britain will always be our friend and ally, whatever happens".  A bit more of that generosity of spirit instead of the vilification, bullying and invective that Leavers have had to put up with would go a long way towards building bridges. 

 

I've been sad that politicians in this country and Europe have been so blind to what was happening in England outside of London and the home counties.  If anyone is to blame, it is themselves for failing the European project and the European people. 

[hummingbird]

This morning I feel extremely concerned for the future of our country, particularly the NHS which is heavily dependent on staff from other EU countries. When I go to work this morning, I will make sure that my Spanish, Italian, Portugese, Polish and Romanian colleagues know that they remain welcome and we value them and the work they do for our NHS.

 

I don't know anybody who doesn't want anybody currently living and working here to remain.  The point has always been "controlled migration", not deportation.  I don't know where the idea came from that EU nationals would be deported if we left the EU.