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#16 Latin pianist

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:05

Where have you printed the lists from? I was sent the original questionnaire, but can't find it now?
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 12:48

I saved the pdf on my computer.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 13:14

Very sensible! Could you outline the grade 2 requirements please?
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 13:59

Sure. Here you go: Scales sim motion: G and F major and A and D minor HT D,A,E majors and E, G minors hands seperately. C major contrary motion Chromatic scale as before Arps - C ma and A mi 2 octs, hands seperately Broken chords, Gma and Emi, in the current grade 1 pattern.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 14:13

That's really useful and even if it's not quite what the requirements are going to be it's far more appropriate for a grade 2 student than the present requirements. Thank you.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 14:23

Yes, I have no problem with that if it ends up being the grade 2 list. I think it's an improvement.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 14:47

The pdf of the new scale proposals is still available online! I found it by googling “ABRSM piano scale proposals” and have now saved a copy.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 14:53

That's really useful and even if it's not quite what the requirements are going to be it's far more appropriate for a grade 2 student than the present requirements. Thank you.


Except the two-pattern broken chord / arpeggio requirements - which (if I’ve read that correctly?) are simply going to be a pain in the [email protected]
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 14:56

I read it as broken chords as grade 1 pattern only
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 15:07

I read it as broken chords as grade 1 pattern only

Yes, so did I.

And I think having two similar ‘arpeggio-type’ patterns to memorise is just too unwieldy. Even though I accept that these would be introduced at grade one - seems to me just mental juggling.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 15:09

Yes it says only the grade 1 pattern. The four note pattern (currently grade 2) is a bad choice for that level. Then it is abandoned! It would actually be of more use for the higher grades, maybe hands together, since it is a pattern of use when playing Classical sonata movements etc.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 15:29

I can't see doing arpeggios and broken chords being a problem at grade 2 . Especially with only a couple of each to do. I've got a feeling there used to be broken chords and arpeggios at grade 1 a few years ago.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 15:39

Yes there were. I think the ABRSM should introduce some 'avant garde' exercises. That would be fun.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 15:51

Not a problem as such - just fiddly. Maybe two of each is not so bad.

But I can think of better ways to use learning time. By all means experience and play as many patterns as possible. But memorise them to be tested? I’m not convinced.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 15:59

I don't see a problem. There are no accidentals so if you can do one of the two arpeggios or one of the two broken chords, the other is easy. I think most of my students would learn them very quickly.
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