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Amber
Can anyone give me any advice on how to float notes please?

In a song I'm working on at the moment there's a part where I want to crescendo to a point, then follow with a much quieter note. I'm finding it quite hard to do that anyway, though lots of back muscle is helping to support the quieter note. But the "floaty" element is eluding me, and I really need to be able to have it to produce the effect I'm looking for.

Any tips/handy hints would be gratefully appreciated.

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Ambs x
dcmbarton
Could you tell us which song it is?
Amber
It's Bist Du Bei Mir

It's the final "geh" that I want to float. So I start mf on the Bist and crescendo to an f on Mir (D, F sharp, D, C natural, B, B). Then bring it back to an mp or even a p and float the high G of "geh", then gently build on that through to the ornamented "freuden".

Does that make sense? smile.gif

Ambs x
rosfrog
I haven't heard you do it, so I'm not certain what the physical problem is exactly, but frequently in these kinds of situations (just after a strong crescendo), it helps a great deal to ensure that your jaw is relaxed (and preferably the lower jaw slightly back rather than forward), your tongue raised and spread at the back (as if you were trying to contact with your upper molars) but relaxed at the front (to avoid tongue root pressure on the larynx), then check your support and, maintaining an open throat (feeling like you're going to giggle the note, for example), just place the note in the same way you would make a sound if you were speaking very quietly, without whispering.

If you're above your first bridge, then add a tiny whimper to the sound and make sure you're not pushing with the airflow.

Hope that helps a bit ! If it doesn't, why don't you record it as it currently sounds (warts and all) and I'll bet one of us can find a solution for you.

Allan
Amber
QUOTE(rosfrog @ Nov 8 2008, 09:26 AM) *

I haven't heard you do it, so I'm not certain what the physical problem is exactly, but frequently in these kinds of situations (just after a strong crescendo), it helps a great deal to ensure that your jaw is relaxed (and preferably the lower jaw slightly back rather than forward), your tongue raised and spread at the back (as if you were trying to contact with your upper molars) but relaxed at the front (to avoid tongue root pressure on the larynx), then check your support and, maintaining an open throat (feeling like you're going to giggle the note, for example), just place the note in the same way you would make a sound if you were speaking very quietly, without whispering.

If you're above your first bridge, then add a tiny whimper to the sound and make sure you're not pushing with the airflow.

Hope that helps a bit ! If it doesn't, why don't you record it as it currently sounds (warts and all) and I'll bet one of us can find a solution for you.

Allan

Thanks for this Allan. I haven't tried it yet because I've just come back from a run and I'm drenched coz it's pouring out there, and I need a nice warm bath first. But I'm excited to experiment with what you say because I know I clench my jaw really badly, so I reckon that could be the main root of the problem. I'm trying to become more aware of it, but left to its own devices my jaw would win the gold medal in the International Jaw Clenching Championships. biggrin.gif

Shall get myself sorted out here then give it a go and see what happens. Fingers crossed, and thanks again.

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Ambs x
AnnC
Remember you can't float notes if they are not in the hum position. Try humming the note first (even if you can only make a gnat's squeak!) and then sing the note, keeping it feeling as if it is in the same position.
Amber
Getting there..........!

Getting there..........!

not quite there yet, it has to be said,

but.........

a definite improvement! biggrin.gif



Thank you both for your advice smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Ambs xx
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