piano_forte
Oct 20 2004, 11:47 AM
last night i was practising the trill and all the very fast bits on my grade 3 piece called allegretto and by the end of the night my fingers were literally burning

and i still cant do it hands togther

lol do you have any side affects of to much practise? and what do you find hardest on pieces?
Digby
Oct 20 2004, 11:58 AM
the night before a concert one night my husband woke me up and told me to stop playing the piano on his back
missfabflute
Oct 20 2004, 01:14 PM
Ooo yes!
at one time, i actually practised nonstop for god knows how many hours
and my wrists started hurting...i dunno whether it was the piano but my right wrist was in pain for days, so i could only play a little piano...

as for the hardest thing in pieces, i think it is actually connecting one phrase, to another phrase, especially if there is a huge change in the style.
Teabag
Oct 20 2004, 01:50 PM
Hi..
I often get Repetitve Strain Injury in my wrists from typing too much and practising the piano. I normally have to rest for 1-2 weeks to give my wrists a break..(which isn't very helpful leading up to an exam!!!)
Lots of Luv
Teabag
xxx
david_t
Oct 20 2004, 03:20 PM
| QUOTE (piano_forte @ Oct 20 2004, 11:47 AM) |
last night i was practising the trill and all the very fast bits on my grade 3 piece called allegretto and by the end of the night my fingers were literally burning and i still cant do it hands togther lol do you have any side affects of to much practise? and what do you find hardest on pieces? |
You shouldn't have this. You're hand has too much tension. Slow the trill down and practice it slowly.
kenm
Oct 20 2004, 05:05 PM
| QUOTE (piano_forte @ Oct 20 2004, 11:47 AM) |
last night i was practising the trill and all the very fast bits on my grade 3 piece called allegretto and by the end of the night my fingers were literally burning and i still cant do it hands togther lol do you have any side affects of to much practise? and what do you find hardest on pieces? |
I don't have commitments on piano, so when I start getting pain (mostly muscle strains if I have a layoff and come back too enthusiastically) I stop and practise another instrument. I got two potentially serious blisters at a rehearsal day two weeks ago, playing double bass in a Shostakovich piano concerto with huge chunks of loud pizzicato. Fortunately there were six days before the concert, and the parts that needed serious practice were all bowed (mostly Mendelssohn's Italian Symphony).
*catherine*
Oct 20 2004, 05:20 PM
I get a lot of back and neck ache when playing the piano - its very intermittent though, as sometimes it takes hours of playing to have an affect, and others barely 5 minutes causes considerable pain. Im trying to have it looked into but am not really sure where to begin!
DGA
Oct 21 2004, 09:10 AM
Just started to play a bit of the continous tremolo in the left hand of Beethoven's Sonata Pathetique, and even though they don't hurt if you just play it through once, my left wrist really hurts after practicing it the first time!
sbhoa
Oct 21 2004, 11:43 AM
| QUOTE |
| I get a lot of back and neck ache when playing the piano |
Alexander technique might help.
sevenblackittens
Oct 21 2004, 11:55 AM
| QUOTE (sbhoa @ Oct 21 2004, 11:43 AM) |
| QUOTE | | I get a lot of back and neck ache when playing the piano |
Alexander technique might help. |
I've heard of it, but what exactly does it involve? Sorry to be the one asking stupid questions
sbhoa
Oct 21 2004, 04:11 PM
Not an expert, but it teaches you how you use your body correctly.
Develops good posture.
I have heard that the first thing you learn is correct position of the neck.
saxlover
Oct 21 2004, 04:43 PM
sometimes after ive played for hours my fingers hurt but not too badly
Ben
Oct 21 2004, 06:10 PM
i was practising the middle section of Beethoven's Sonata in Eb Op.7 3rd movt (an alternative piece on Grade VII A list) the other night and I think I over did it as my right wrist hurt afterwards and still hurts 2 days later

Am a bit worried cos I haven't had this before. Am trying to rest it and not play but what if I've done some real damage?! I know my GP would just say rest it and see what happens, so its not even worth seeing him.
Anyone else doing this piece by the way? I really love it, especially the minore section in the middle! I'll master it one day....if my wrist recovers
Ben
Oct 21 2004, 06:44 PM
on a positive note...I have just thought that although my right hand needs rest, it doesn't stop me playing with my left hand! This is my weaker hand so it would be a good exercise to practise scales etc with left hand only for a while!
sbhoa
Oct 22 2004, 12:10 PM
| QUOTE |
| it would be a good exercise to practise scales etc with left hand only for a while! |
I did quite a lot of right hand only practice when I had an injury to my left thumb.
June
Oct 23 2004, 04:00 AM
I think sometimes it really happens when u practice too much
cos i have this experience before where i practice 2 much until my backbone felt pain...
golden_angel
Oct 23 2004, 01:45 PM
i dont tend to have problems like that after practicing for hours, but after i while i do suffer from boredom! :-s
kishgia
Oct 24 2004, 02:30 PM
I don't remember getting any injuries from playing the piano.
I just remember that after a rigorous session, my finger would feel as if it is rushing with blood. Very nice warm feeling.
Piano_Lady
Oct 25 2004, 12:12 PM
Hi, if i practise a song for to long, i never want to do it again, even though i have it to perfection.
dorfmouse
Oct 25 2004, 02:51 PM
| QUOTE |
| last night i was practising the trill and all the very fast bits on my grade 3 piece called allegretto and by the end of the night my fingers were literally burning and i still cant do it hands togther lol do you have any side affects of to much practise? and what do you find hardest on pieces? |
You should not be injuring yourself.
Get your teacher to check your technique
Become aware of where the tension is coming from
Try trilling with different fingers eg not always 23 23, try 13 23, or add more wrist rotation
Alternate shorter bursts of practice with each hand separately
Break the fast bits down into very small chunks maybe just 2 or 3 notes if necessary. Play them indifferent rhythms fast and slow.
Don't move on until you've mastered each chunk HS
Don't try playing HT fast until you are really secure withHS. You'll just ingrain mistakes that become very difficult to eradicate.
After you've practised a small section, always alternating hands to avoid fatigue, for maximium 15-20 minutes - stop and go onto something different. That chunk won't improve any more at that sitting and your brain needs processing time for it to sink in, usually over a night's sleep. It's called Post Pracice Improvement and it's a wonderful thing .. if you've practised right in the first place!
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